Theology

Does God Leave Us When We Sin?

Many Christians believe that when they sin, God turns away from them, he leaves them because he can’t be in the presence of sin.  And then when we repent he comes back.

I have been thinking about this and it seems to me that the Bible teaches something different.

First of all, there are many examples in the Bible that make it clear that God can be in the presence of sin.  Satan was in the presence of the Lord in Job chapter 1 verses 6-12 and chapter 2 verses 1-7. God not only allowed Satan in his presence, but took his suggestion to strike Job.   Jesus was God incarnate.  He came into our world and lived and ate with sinners.  Also the Bible teaches in Jeremiah 23:23-24 that God is omnipresent.  God is present everywhere.  He fills heaven and earth.  If he is everywhere, then he is in the presence of sinful people.

If God could only be around us when we were morally perfect, wouldn’t that mean that such a thing was possible?  Have you ever had a day you were morally perfect? I haven’t.  Every Christian in the world wrestles with sin every single day of his or her life.  Even the apostle Paul complained, “The good that I will to do, I do not do; but the evil I will not to do, that I practice” (Romans 7:20).  Paul also said in 1 Corinthians 4:4 that even though his conscience is clear, it does not mean that he is innocent.  None of us is conformed to the image of Christ overnight.  Sanctification is a lifelong process.  That process will not be complete until we are clothed with our imperishable bodies, enter the Holy City, and see the Lord face to face.  If we had to be morally perfect for God to be in our presence, then he would never be in our presence. And yet God lives inside of us. (1 Cor. 3:16) And he is with us. (Matt. 28:20; Heb. 13:5)

If God can only be around us when we are sinless, that would make God’s forgiveness conditional.  God’s love for us always has been and always will be in spite of our behavior, not because of our behavior. (Eph. 2:4-5 “We were by nature objects of wrath.  But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions.”  Titus 3:3-5 At one time we were foolish, disobedient… but when the love of God appeared, he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy.” Rom. 5:8 “But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.”)  The Bible clearly teaches that salvation is given because of God’s grace, not because of our good behavior.  And if it is not based on our behavior before our salvation, it doesn’t get taken away based on behavior after. (Rom. 11:6; Gal. 2:16, Gal. 2:21; Eph. 28-9)  The Bible also clearly teaches that there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. (Rom. 8:1-2; Jn. 3:17; Rom 8:33-39)

Maybe the idea that God can’t be in the presence of sin comes from Habakkuk 1:13 where it says that God’s “eyes are too pure to look on evil”.  Could it be that Habakkuk 1:13 is a picture of God’s moral perfection and holiness?  Maybe it is not meant to be a statement about his physical presence. We know God does not literally have eyes.  God is spirit (Jn. 4:24) and does not have a physical presence.

The Bible teaches that God is opposed to sin and evil, that he is holy and righteous.  We know that eventually he will quarantine evil from good when he creates the New Heaven and Earth (Rev. 21).  At that time, God will physically separate those who love him from those who don’t.  Those who love him will no longer be in the presence of sin from that point forward.

Until then, God tolerates the presence of sin in order to accomplish his purposes with mankind.  Thank goodness, because if God truly could not be in the presence of sin, none of us would be here!

Theology

Biblical Discipline

Biblical Discipline

Confrontation and discipline should be done in love, to benefit someone who is making choices that are damaging to themselves or others.  God teaches us in His word that confrontation of sin is for the purpose of restoring, rescuing, redeeming, and reconciling, and should always be done in humility, gentleness, and love.  God does not want us to confront sin to get even, to vent anger, or to punish.  Sadly, not many people have experienced confrontation according to biblical principles.  Most people have experienced a corrupted version of biblical confrontation that was not life-giving at all.

God does not want us to confront someone to show them that they are “bad” or that we are mad.  He does not want us to confront for the purpose of controlling people through fear and intimidation. When we do, we demonstrate that we believe that it is our job to judge and punish people and make them be good.

Jesus did not die to make us be good people, he died to give us life. Confrontation should communicate a bigger picture than just to stop being bad and be good.  It should communicate the importance of coming back to the life that God created us for; life as God designed it to work. When we return to dependence on God as the source, we benefit from experiencing Life as God created it to be.  Turning from our sin is not just a means to escape condemnation, it is the way back to Life.

When confrontation is done for the right purpose and with the right attitude in relationships, families, and communities over a long period of time, trust is developed.  When people are able to trust that confrontation is for their benefit, and not to point out their badness, they become more willing to humbly look at themselves and see the areas in which they need to grow. If we are using biblical discipline we don’t use the tools of anger, shame, or intimidation. When we understand God’s model for confrontation, we can confront our brothers and sisters in a loving and gentle way that is focused on rescuing, redeeming, and reconciling.